Kyle Miller


(應幾位讀者,包括Longlongmama之邀請,我又來了……大家如果覺得悶,也千萬要看看最尾的短片。)

Kyle跟小C一樣三歲。Kyle有愛他的姐姐,愛笑,愛動物,知道二加二等如四。

Kyle跟小C一樣三歲--那是三年前的事。

三年前他走了,他將永遠三歲。

那天他照常坐在汽車加高座位booster seat上,乖乖扣好安全帶,和姐姐一起吃零食。十字路口處,一輛車衝過紅燈,攔腰撞了過來--速度也並非很快,但足以讓Kyle的車打滾了幾次才停下。媽媽向後一看,Kyle連booster seat帶人不見了,原來打滾間booster seat鬆綁,和Kyle一起衝破玻璃窗跌出了三十尺外。

媽媽發了瘋抱着耳和口都在噴血的Kyle,他已然即時死亡。

如果真的存在「沒有枉死」這回事的話,媽媽沒有讓Kyle枉死,她開了網站宣傳汽車安全知識。

加高座位booster seat都單靠一條安全帶「固定」,綁着Kyle那條,那天撞擊中就那樣鬆開了。專家竟說,那是常有的事。

五點安全式(5-point harness)的正式汽車座位肯定最安全,不過關鍵是一定要用Isofix(亦叫LATCH)固定好,不能只靠一條安全帶,因為剛說過,安全帶在撞擊中可能會鬆開,甚或被生番一早離奇打開,而用F=ma一算,輕巧的孩子比成年人會飛彈得更快更遠。

不理你開車有多安全有多慢,路面多的是「偶然不小心」的司機。你還要讓孩子的安全繫於一條成人安全帶嗎?

又,如果把孩子抱在成人懷裡:

(此測試來自NHTSA,NHTSA是美國政府的National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,不過他們建議超過40磅孩子該轉坐booster seat,其實還是太危險了。)

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小資料:

Britax的Boulevard及Regent型號正式汽車座位都有Isofix,分別可坐至孩子65磅並80磅,Boulevard更可向後坐至孩子35磅,但可惜在香港就是買不到,法例也不讓它們給郵寄出國,就算寄了,也不知是否沒受損壞仍然安全。唉。

坐的士怎辦?我都很頭痛。小C小時我一定帶備揹帶,自己做人肉car-seat。之後大了,買了火箭裝置,旅行時坐長途的士很好用,不過要在Amazon買,而且也較重,但勝在夠安全。如果退而求其次,去Bumps to Babes買個Flight Vest,有分大細碼,用大人安全帶將後面整幅布包住,都叫做好過冇。

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23 responses to “Kyle Miller

  1. 讀了很令人心痛。這個資料應該傳開去,讓更多父母注意和認識。

  2. 今天阿包又靜雞雞打開了扣住car seat的安全帶,畀我鬧咗一大餐。

  3. aliciababy

    isofix 在香港不太流行or sales 不太推介
    我都是從車行跟車買回來

  4. 睇到Kyle的故事,心好酸,眼淚都忍唔住流下,沒有事比失去仔女更傷痛,我知道。。。
    已第一時間send左條link俾正出差的爸爸睇,希望佢明白,希望佢肯屈服,就算有isofix的car seat比沒有的笨重很多(那個金屬架底座),因為我地經常轉車,car seats要經常又裝又拆,的確會增加不便,但始終果句,沒有事比仔女既安全更重要!
    真係好感激阿四,坐緊月都寫咁多。
    你,功得無量!

  5. Sai

    原來Britax無得出口﹐我都唔知。我地之前在這兒(SFO)幫妹妹買了個Marathon然後托朋友帶返香港比佢﹐但佢奶奶經常話BB想出來(點會呀,6個月大咋woh)所以抱住我姨甥女在車上舞﹐嚇到我阿妹死。香港絕大部份人都好無呢方面既安全意識﹐有D擔心。

  6. Sai

    I don’t know you can’t buy those models in HK. Last time when my sister needed it for her daughter, I bought it here (SFO) and arranged a friend to carry it to HK. But still, her mother-in-law said, “Oh, baby so wants us to pick her up! (by a 6-month-old baby??)" Then she picked my niece up and put her on her lap. I wish people in HK can understand more about the state law we have here for all 50 states regarding car seats.

  7. Sai

    I also started to buy Britax after I watched this stunning video. We are privileged to learn about the importance of latch system from the Miller’s tragedy.

  8. Ah 4, I bought this flight CARES harness (got a friend from US to send it over to me), and will test it out during our trip to UK at the end of this month. I just received it two days ago and I know it’s for flights, but will try to fiddle it and see if it can be used on normal car seat belts, and hence for taxi uses later on. Will keep you posted.

    http://jetwithkids.com/store.html#cares

    Like you, I’m SO concerned with road safety and am already talking my husband out of getting a booster seat after reading your earlier posts. He thinks the normal one 11 is using is taking up too much space and it’s time to change, citing he know of others using booster without any problem – of course, they haven’t been tested out yet and good for them. I’m always a worrier of 不怕一万,最怕万一,cos when it comes to driving, sometimes it’s not your fault but some unexpected or even reckless behaviour of others than you cannot foresee. I get so nervous when I’m not the one driving. I will show him the videos you posted.

    And I agree that even with the 5 point harness system, without the ISOFIX/latch, it doesn’t feel as safe. 1 1 ‘s seat keep wobbling and i have to adjust the seat belt straps that strap across his seat from time to time cos it gets displaced, meaning he’s not properly secured. I get so worried whenever a car comes near us, and I won’t be surprised if I suffer from nervous breakdown just because of this.

    I’ve lived in UK for so many years, and heard of the horror stories before, which sometimes HK people cannot see/be bothered to see. The same principle applies in my humble view – make it safe for yourself and your family as much as you can, and drive responsibly and courtesiously. 2 seconds/minutes delay won’t harm you that much, but it can avoid horrible accidents happening that you will regret for the rest of your life.

    Thanks for sharing. Road safety is every responsible mothers’ concern.

    And sorry for mumbling so long. It’s an issue that it down to my heart and I needed to vent.

  9. wybau

    其實flight vest既作用大唔大呢? 睇個樣好似好單薄, 因我好多時都一個人帶住個女搭的士, flight vest似乎係唯一選擇.

  10. Sai: Britax的英國models有出口,但只去到40磅,我想要的,都冇。

    11mama: it looks quite promising! thanks for sharing. and oh, feel free to vent all you want here 😉

    wybau: 所以我話,叫做好過冇囉。

  11. 我都有好多朋友話個 bb 唔肯坐 carseat,又問我點解 chilli 會肯一個人坐後坐 carseat ?
    在香港,好多時 bb 係被「訓練」成不肯坐 carseat 的。
    搭的士,我少搭。不過我成日抱著 chilli 搭小巴,車程好短亦唔會過 50km/h,但都會緊張。

  12. 在這裡覆Carmen

    真對不起,現在才覆你。
    值得一提是,一過40磅,絕大部分汽車就不能support到Isofix,要用番seat belt穿住個car-seat.

    總結選car-seats有3個條件:
    1) 40磅前有isofix
    2) 向後(backward facing)越耐越好,因向後最安全.
    細佬佢從未試過向前,所以肯坐我買的Britax Boulevard 70,能向後至40磅。到40磅嘞,向前亦坐至70磅,都可以用好多年。
    http://www.britaxusa.com/car-seats/boulevard-70
    3) 有full (5-point) harness越耐越好
    HK好落後,所有款都是一過40磅便不再用5-point harness。英國britax條line亦落後,但好不幸Mothercare就係賣英國Britax,我去到Mothercare都好down。(佢地個乜乜1-2-3係40磅後就變booster,唔安全!)
    所以我們用的2個car-seats,是在美國買的Britax,之後運過來。
    小C的是Britax的Frontier,harnessed到85磅呀–“allows your child to remain harnessed up to 85 lbs or in booster mode to 120 lbs"
    由於可以用很多很多年(留意,每個款式都有不同壽命and therefore expiration date),加埋運費我仍然覺得值–同埋別忘記HK的貨不也是已經包括一定的運費嗎?(就算是wholesale,運car-seats不平啊),而且在美國上網買野通常有折,計吓計吓仍可接受。
    http://www.britaxusa.com/car-seats/frontier-85

    • 訪客

      How come I can’t see my reply?

    • Carmen

      當我看到你(媽媽阿四)的回覆時,我已經買了car seat! 我有一個3.5歲的女兒chloe,而另一個亦將於今年7月面世。

      其實,chloe一直在用booster,放在司機後面的座位上,起初,實在看不見有什麼問題。直至有一次,彎轉急了,chloe連人帶booster向車邊方向移去,一張蛋臉輕輕吻了車窗一下,之後,chloe跟媽媽說:『媽媽,我飛左去側邊呀,仲撞到窗門呀。』媽媽回頭一看,看見孩子貼著車門,冷汗直標。回家後媽媽立刻上網找有關兒童汽車安全座椅的資料,才知道booster要靠孩子的重量才能將座位牢固在座椅上;孩子愈重,booster愈能牢靠在汽車座位上,否則,孩子會容易出現左右滑行的現象。

      既然孩子現在才只得15kg,我實在想找有isofix設置的安全椅,可惜,有isofix配備的”大囝大囡”櫈,確實小之又小。在選購座椅的過程當中,我參考了消委會的兒童汽車安全座椅的測試報告。我亦帶孩子到不同的門市摸摸試試,希望孩子能有一張既喜歡,又安全及舒適的安全椅。

  13. Carmen

    How come can’t see the reply again?

  14. Carmen

    最後,初生(0-13kg/0-12months)的汽車安全椅,我買了maxi cosi的Pebble + Family Fix(底盤with isofix mounts),若然妹妹長得高大,會配maxi cosi的pearl(9-18kg/9months to 4 yrs old) which fits on FamilyFix。或者,4年後,會有更多5-point safety harness seat with ISOFIX mounts的選擇。

  15. Carmen

    至於家姐chloe,自以為已經長大了(其實都只是3歲半而已),有點個性,選購時實在令人頭痛:
    1)頭枕太硬,小姐堅決拒絕坐下;所以當試坐那台britax的KIDFIX時,二話不說立即彈起來,以極速跑出商店希望第一時間逃離現場。除了那台KIDFIX,媽媽實在找不到有isofix的大囝櫈
    2)退一步,找5-point safety harness seat,怎料孩子一試之後,嚎哭起來。
    媽媽實在後悔一開始讓孩子坐car seat時沒有好好做準備,讓孩子自由地坐在booster,現在一下子改變不了她的習慣。
    最後,孩子選了maxi cosi的Rodi Air Protect Black Reflection,可惜只能靠汽車的seat belt作3點式固定,唯一比booster好的,就是頭和頸都叫做有點保護。

    現在,媽媽再四處搜尋,究竟有沒有一些類似5 point harness的adaptor,可以用在3點式的汽車座椅上。若然有,我一定會買回來,train up孩子習慣5point harness safety seat。

    • Carmen

      So good that Mothercare is willing to change the car seat for me. I changed the Maxi Cosi Rodi Air Reflection to Maxi Cosi Pearl. As a result, Chloe can temporarily sit on the Pearl (until she is 18kg). What a surprise that she didn’t cry when trying on Pearl!!! In the meantime, I will order a Frontier 85 for her.
      媽媽阿四, may I know where/which site did you order the Frontier 85? Can you shed me some light, please? Thanks very much for your kind attention.

      • Friend

        Hi Carmen, I’m a reader of mama4 and just saw your questions on carseats. I live in the United States, I just want to share with you that there is a new booster seat with LATCH or ISOFIX mount (see below for the link). We have been using this booster seat for my 5 yr old son in our 2nd car and when we travel. I agree that Britax Frontier is probably the safest car seat out there and we have it for our van. But, it’s a very bulky carseat and it is not easy to move from one car to another. I thought the Clek Olli Booster is a safe enough option if you kid is tall and heavy enough to use it (above 40lbs & 40″). The booster seat is securely attached to the car with LATCH, so you will not have the problem of the booster seat moving around at all.

        http://www.amazon.com/Clek-Olli-Booster-Seat-Blacktop/dp/B000VTP8H0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

      • Thanks for the info. I’m very surprised by the fact that they’re offering LATCH beyond 40 lbs, as it’s my understanding that most cars actually don’t officially support LATCH beyond 40 lbs. Could it be because it’s a “rigid-LATCH"?

        By the way, I just found a 5-step check to see if a child is ready for a booster:
        http://www.carseat.org/Boosters/630.htm

        Anyway, I’m gonna keep my kids in a 5-point-harnessed proper seat for as long as possible!

      • i’ve lost the link to the site i used. gimme some time to find it 🙂

  16. Carmen

    Thanks 媽媽阿四 and the information for booster.

    Actually, I also prefer to use the 5-point harnessed seat.
    Finally and luckily, I remember that Chloe(my daughter) got a 堂家姐 who is staying in U.S. now. She helped me to order the frontier 85 in US already. Now, we are just wondering, whether to ship it back to HK, or to bring it back when she come back to HK.

    Now Chloe is using the Maxi Cosi Pearl. Ha! To my surprise, she loves this car seat. (起初我係諗住比妹妹用) Now I will let Chloe use until she is 18kg.

    媽媽阿四, a million thanks again for all the information you’ve given me.

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